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Matthew 12:30-37 Pardon the idle word counting - old
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1. Matthew 12:30-37 Pardon the idle word counting - old
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2. Matthew 12:30-37 Pardon the idle word counting - old
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Verse routeMatthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. [kjv]
Verse route12:32 And who soever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but who soever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. [kjv]

Verse route12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [kjv]
Verse route12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. [kjv]

Bad wordsWhat is the "unpardonable" "sin"? What is an "idle word"? How might they be related? How are they related to "treasure" and "trees"?

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3. Luke 9:29 Idyllic
Verse routeLuke 9:29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι εγενετο εν τω προσευχεσθαι αυτον το ειδος του προσωπου αυτου ετερον και ο ιματισμος αυτου λευκος εξαστραπτων [gnt]

The English word "idyllic" (happy, peaceful, picturesque) is a form of the English word "idyll" which comes from the Latin word "idyllium""idyl" which comes from the ancient Greek word "εἰδύλλιον""idyll" which is a diminutive form of the ancient Greek word "εἶδος""form, shape" from the PIE (Proto Indo-European) root "*WEYD""see"and is related to words such as "video".

4. Luke 9:29
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KJV: And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
Greek: και εγενετο εν τω προσευχεσθαι αυτον το ειδος του προσωπου αυτου ετερον και ο ιματισμος αυτου λευκος εξαστραπτων
Latin: et factum est dum oraret species vultus eius altera et vestitus eius albus refulgens
Wycliffe: And while he preiede, the licnesse of his cheer was chaungid, and his clothing was whit schynynge.
Tyndale: And as he prayed ye facion of his countenaunce was changed and his garment was whyte and shoone.

5. Python
Python IDLEAs an acronym for "idle", the Python programming IDLE (Integrated Development and Learning Environment) is a simple programming development environment.

6. Idol
In English, the words "idle" and "idol" are pronounced the same.

The English word "idol" means something representing a god that is worshiped - which could be a physical entity or something abstract in the mind (or both).

One idol in the Bible is in the apocryphal book of Daniel called "Bel and the dragon" where "Bel" is an idol that is worshiped.
The English word "idle" means "not working" in some way as in "idle words".

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7. No idling
Verse routeJames 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: [kjv]
Verse route ιστε αδελφοι μου αγαπητοι εστω δε πας ανθρωπος ταχυς εις το ακουσαι βραδυς εις το λαλησαι βραδυς εις οργην [gnt]

No idling. Turn engine off No idle talk. Turn mouth off
Many have seen the sign that says, "No idling. Turn engine off!".

This is in areas where the excess car exhaust (hot air) may not be good to those around.

Many think of "idle talk" in the same way. "No idle talk. Turn mouth off!".

This is in areas where the excess mouth exhaust (hot air) may not be good to those around.

God gave us two ears that do not close and one mouth that does. Might there be a reason?
A related English expression is "engage brain before shifting mouth into gear". Discuss:

8. James 1:19
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KJV: Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
Greek: ωστε ιστε αδελφοι μου αγαπητοι εστω δε πας ανθρωπος ταχυς εις το ακουσαι βραδυς εις το λαλησαι βραδυς εις οργην

9. Narrow the meaning
Meaningless words are not good - they can be used to distract attention and use up time.

Omitted words are not good - they can be used to deceive.

Let us try to narrow down the idea of an "idle word". It is assumed that the plural "idle words" is more of the same.

A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. David Gries (Computer scientist)

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10. Empty words
Verse routeEphesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. [kjv]
Verse routeμηδεις υμας απατατω κενοις λογοις δια ταυτα γαρ ερχεται η οργη του θεου επι τους υιους της απειθειας [gnt]
Verse routeseducat inanibus verbis … [v]

Blah, blah, blahAn empty word (or words) has no grammatical function and, if removed, does not change the meaning of the sentence. Phrases may be referred to as LIC (Low Information Content) expressions or phrases. Saying: Words empty as the wind are best left unsaid.
Paul in Ephesians 5:6 warns of "empty words" used to "deceive". The LXX (Septuagint) in Job 6:6 talks of "empty words" which, in the Hebrew and KJV (King James Version), is "white of an egg".

Since "empty words" have no additional meaning, "idle words" would appear to need some specific meaning and are not "empty words".

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11. Filler words
Book: Literate programmingThe computer scientist Donald Knuth says that, when writing very technical and dense details, one should use "filler words" to help the material flow more and give the reader's mind a short break.

Knuth, D. (1993). Literate Programming. Stanford, CA: CSLI. ISBN: 978-0937073803.

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12. Weasel words
A "weasel word" is a word that is intentionally ambiguous or misleading. Marketing is known for using a lot of "weasel words". Teddy Roosevelt (26th President of the United States) popularized the term in 1916. The original come from a short story of Stewart Chaplin in 1900. Weasel words were "words that suck the life out of the words next to them, just as a weasel sucks the egg and leaves the shell".
See, for example, Watson's Dictionary of Weasel Words, Contemporary Cliches, Cant and Management Jargon. 2004. ISBN ‎ 978-1740513210.

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13. Quotes
Theodore Roosevelt had a penchant for creating or popularizing short names and phrases that could be remembered such as "Walk softly and carry a big stick",the "Rough riders", etc.

14. Quotes

15. Idle words
Bad wordsOften, "idle words" are described as viscous, negative, bad, not true, disparaging, dirty, etc. That is, they are not good words to say.
Let us investigate what the GNT (Greek New Testament) might say.

16. Words and meanings
Written languages rarely and slowly change while spoken language changes often and relatively quickly. Words have meanings. Meanings are important.

The famous Latin proverb is "Verba volant, scripta manent""spoken words fly, written words remain" (probably from Caius Titus). Better to put something into writing than to agree verbally.

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17. Matthew 12:29 Snatching the raptured goods from the strong man
The pretext is verses 24 to 29 when the religious authorities accuse Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Satan ending with the "strong man" verse.
Verse routeMatthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. [kjv]
Verse routeη πως δυναται τις εισελθειν εις την οικιαν του ισχυρου και τα σκευη αυτου σαι αρπασαι εαν μη πρωτον δηση τον ισχυρον και τοτε την οικιαν αυτου διαρπασει [gnt]

The GNT word for "spoil" is the ancient Greek word "ἁρπάζω""snatch away, carry off" and may be related to the ancient Greek word "ἅρπη""bird of prey" as a hawk or falcon and which may be related to the PIE root for "reap", "harvest", "sickle". This word for "snatch" is sometimes translated "rapture" or "ravenous" as in "wolves".

The ancient Greek word "σκευή""vessel" as something that is made but can refer to "people" as in a "chosen vessel". Who is doing the "choosing"?

[Last Supper, 1 & 2 Thessalonians]

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18. Stair analogy
Stepwise refinement - numberedA stair analogy can be used to help understand top-down design and bottom-up implementation. Identifying the goal is most important! You do not want to climb the wrong stairs to get to the wrong goal.
Implementation: Design: When it works, top-down tends to be better. Gospels:

19. Take the stairs
Stepwise refinement - numbered
In case of fire take the stairs! Where do I put them? And don't you all give me empty stares.

20. Verse organization
This discourse by Jesus appears to be in a top-down backward-chaining sequence from the goal in verse 30 to the starting point in verse 37. Reading the verses in order in a bottom-up forward-chaining way makes the meaning (for most people) hard to discern.

Bottom-up forward-chaining: 30 then 31 then 32 ... (how most people understand)

Verses 0
Top-down backward-chaining: 30 if 31 if 32 ... (as spoken and written)

Verses 1
Studying the verses in reverse order provides a way to better understand the meaning in a bottom-up forward-chaining manner that is more familiar to most people.

21. Matthew Condemned and judged
Verses 2
Verse routeMatthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. [kjv]
Verse routeεκ γαρ των λογων σου δικαιωθηση και εκ των λογων σου καταδικασθηση [gnt]

The setup verse in a top-down backward-chaining view is that of the last verse.

22. Matthew 12:36 Accountability
Verses 3
Verse routeMatthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγω δε υμιν οτι παν ρημα αργον ο λαλησουσιν οι ανθρωποι αποδωσουσιν περι αυτου λογον εν ημερα κρισεως [gnt]


23. Idioms using word
There are many English idioms using "word".

24. Something to say about words
Verse routeMatthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγω δε υμιν οτι παν ρημα αργον ο λαλησουσιν οι ανθρωποι αποδωσουσιν περι αυτου λογον εν ημερα κρισεως [gnt]

The KJV uses "account" but the Greek has "word" as in giving a word or words to account for the "idle words". There are (at least) two ancient Greek words for "word". In general, one word means a spoken word and one means a written word but this distinction is not always followed.

There are many verses in the LXX and GNT that use both words. Such verses may help understand both the similarities and the differences between the two words.

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25. Matthew 12:36 Accounting
Verses 3
Verse routeMatthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγω δε υμιν οτι παν ρημα αργον ο λαλησουσιν οι ανθρωποι αποδωσουσιν περι αυτου λογον εν ημερα κρισεως [gnt]


26. Narrowing the meaning
When Jesus speaks, he often uses code words where nouns or nouns with their adjectives are used to represent other ideas. Often the coded form has a meaning somewhat like the decoded form, but not always.

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Here "idle words" may be a code word that represents something else in addition to the literal meaning.

Let us first look at the literal meaning of "idle words".

27. Decidable words
Verses 3
Verse routeMatthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγω δε υμιν οτι παν ρημα αργον ο λαλησουσιν οι ανθρωποι αποδωσουσιν περι αυτου λογον εν ημερα κρισεως [gnt]

A "decision procedure" in computer science is a method or algorithm that, given some input, makes a decision that can be though of as "yes" or "no".

Decision procedureIs a word an "idle" "word" if that word is clearly "for Christ"? Does one need to account for such a word in the day of judgment?

Is a word an "idle" "word" if that word is clearly "against Christ"? Does one need to account for such a word in the day of judgment?
Such words are here called "decidable words" or "decidable silences". There is no question as to whether "decidable words" or "decidable silences" are "for Christ" or "against Christ". Some "false Christs" deceive by omitting words.

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28. Decision procedure
Decision procedure Book: Decision procedures
A "decision procedure" in computer science is a method or algorithm that, given some input, makes a decision that can be though of as "yes" or "no".

A "decision tree" rotates the tree and has more nodes to make decisions, things to happen, etc.

Decision tree Duct tape WD-40
If the accounting for "idle words" does not resolve the issue, a decision procedure is needed to break the deadlock on the decision (i.e., a tie-breaker rule).

29. Decision procedure
It would appear that an "idle word" is not decidable in the above sense and only words heard by and impacting others are relevant. Such words need to be accounted for in the day of judgment.

If the accounting resolves the issue of whether the words were "for Christ" or "against Christ" the matter is (logically) resolved - for good or bad result for that individual.

Might this accounting need to account for words not said? That is, omitted words used to deceive.

30. Communication sequence

 1   2   3   +   -   ▶ 

A "false Christ" is not just someone who says "I am Christ. Do this.". Someone who says "Christ says to do this" is functionally equivalent to someone who says "I am Christ. Do this.". The Greek word translated as "glory" has a meaning of "opinion". Giving "glory" to God means deferring one's own opinion to the opinion of God. Taking glory from God means substituting one's own opinion for God's opinion. One way to do this is to change the Bible to fit one's own opinion.

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31. Counter-factual logic
Counter-factual logic has to do with reasoning about what might have happened.

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“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. Dietrich Bonhoeffer (German Lutheran pastor, theologian and anti-Nazi dissident)

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32. Comparisons
Balance scales tilt rightShould the penalty be the same or worse for deceiving by omission than deceiving by delaying or avoiding the issue?
Asking which is greater is a logical question to ask. Jesus often uses comparisons. Jesus used such a comparison both earlier in the chapter 12 and twice later in chapter 12 using another Greek word for "greater".

33. Repeated question
Let us repeat the question. Which of the following is worse?
Balance scales tilt rightShould the penalty by the same or worse for deceiving by omission than deceiving by delaying or avoiding the issue?

Jesus (and others) on many occasions makes use of comparisons as to one entity being greater or less than another entity. One can be "weighed in the balance".

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34. Judgment
Divide into two partsThe "judgment" is the "separation" process such as the parable of the sheep and the goats in Matthew 22.
Matthew 7:1. Jesus is speaking.

35. Good and bad things
The separation here is into good and bad things based on the individual.

Is there any middle? Any middle part would be the deceptive part. That is, the part that is not clearly good and not clearly bad.

In the above verse, Jesus addresses individual people. There may be a translation issue here.

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36. Matthew 19:16-17 Only one is good
Verse routeMatthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? [kjv]
Verse routeκαι ιδου εις προσελθων αυτω ειπεν διδασκαλε τι αγαθον ποιησω ινα σχω ζωην αιωνιον [gnt]
Verse route19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. [kjv]
Verse routeο δε ειπεν αυτω τι με ερωτας περι του αγαθου εις εστιν ο αγαθος ει δε θελεις εις την ζωην εισελθειν τηρει τας εντολας [gnt]

Jesus says that no one is "good" but God. If Jesus is God, then if no one is good but God, then is Jesus good? Is the inference of a reflexive relationship appropriate here? Jesus uses the Greek word for "bad" for those who are "fallen" and need the "good news" or "Gospel".

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37. Burdensome evils
One Greek word for "evil" in the GNT is the ancient Greek word "πονηρός""oppressed by toils" and comes from the ancient Greek word "πονέω""to toil, labor".

The ancient Greek word "πόνος""work, toil". The ancient Greek word "πονηρός""enduring toil or suffering" and, in religion it means a somewhat nebulous "evil" (as that is the meaning theologians have given it).

38. Pornography
Evil and fornication

The English word "pornography", which some shorten to "porn", comes, through French, from the ancient Greek word "πορνογράφος ""pornography" from two Greek words. This word appears to be different than the Greek word for "evil" or "burdened" but can be a play on words.

39. Strongs - evil

40. Usage - evil
*G4190 *76 πονηρός (pon-ay-ros') : from a derivative of G4192; hurtful, i.e. evil (properly, in effect or influence, and thus differing from G2556, which refers rather to essential character, as well as from G4550, which indicates degeneracy from original virtue); figuratively, calamitous; also (passively) ill, i.e. diseased; but especially (morally) culpable, i.e. derelict, vicious, facinorous; neuter (singular) mischief, malice, or (plural) guilt; masculine (singular) the devil, or (plural) sinners:--bad, evil, grievous, harm, lewd, malicious, wicked(-ness).
Translation issueThere appears to be a translation issue here.

The ancient Greek lexicons provide the meaning translated as "evil" as "oppressed by toils" which fits the context of what Jesus is here (and elsewhere) saying.

The Strongs concordance and theologians have translated "evil" from the Greek (changing a consonant pair) as "hurtful", "evil".

41. Word slide
Whisper chain

Whisper chain toilsome to evilThe Latin word "malus""unpleasant, evil".

It appears that there is a "word slide" here in that the Latin word had more than one meaning and that other meaning was adapted in many places as the meaning of the original word.
Would such a "semantic slide" be to the advantage or disadvantage of the church? Explain.

42. Comparison
Let us try a comparison of both meanings. How does this change the meaning of the verse? Which meaning fits better in the context of these verses?

43. Comparison
DilbertA common Scott Adams Dilbert cartoon theme is the following. The project gets behind schedule so the manager starts requiring more status reports, each of which take burdensome and toilsome work to complete as the project gets more behind schedule.
Burdensome things can distract one from the goal. One can think of the "evil" resulting from being "burdened" with other requirements.

44. Branches
Verse routeJohn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. [kjv]
Verse routeεγω ειμι η αμπελος υμεις τα κληματα ο μενων εν εμοι καγω εν αυτω ουτος φερει καρπον πολυν οτι χωρις εμου ου δυνασθε ποιειν ουδεν [gnt]

Vine 0People bear fruit but are usually not referred to as a tree in the Bible. Instead, they are a "κλῆμα""twig, branch (of the vine), sprout" which may be from "κλάω""break".
Jesus is the "vine" and we are the "branches" (of the vine, not the tree). There is another word for the "branch" of a "tree".

Branch and power/might

45. John 15:5
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KJV: I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Greek: εγω ειμι η αμπελος υμεις τα κληματα ο μενων εν εμοι καγω εν αυτω ουτος φερει καρπον πολυν οτι χωρις εμου ου δυνασθε ποιειν ουδεν

46. Trees
Tree with twigs - fruitIn the Bible,a tree usually represents a human hierarchy and not an individual persons. Usually, the ruler, such as Nebuchadnezzar, is the root of the tree. The common person or worker is a leaf of the tree.


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47. Discuss
Manager-worker structureDiscuss: Jesus in this chapter is addressing the religious establishment and shortcomings of that establishment. Does this verse refer primarily to trees as religious hierarchical establishments (including the church) or to trees as human individuals (or both)?

48. Matthew 12:33 Good and rotten trees
Verses 6
Verse routeMatthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. [kjv]
Verse routeη ποιησατε το δενδρον καλον και τον καρπον αυτου καλον η ποιησατε το δενδρον σαπρον και τον καρπον αυτου σαπρον εκ γαρ του καρπου το δενδρον γινωσκεται [gnt]


49. Matthew 12:33 Good and rotten trees
Verses 6
Verse routeMatthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. [kjv]
Verse routeη ποιησατε το δενδρον καλον και τον καρπον αυτου καλον η ποιησατε το δενδρον σαπρον και τον καρπον αυτου σαπρον εκ γαρ του καρπου το δενδρον γινωσκεται [gnt]


50. Churches
Discuss:

51. Matthew 12:32
Verses 7
Verse routeMatthew 12:32 And who soever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but who soever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι ος εαν ειπη λογον κατα του υιου του ανθρωπου αφεθησεται αυτω ος δ αν ειπη κατα του πνευματος του αγιου ουκ αφεθησεται αυτω ουτε εν τουτω τω αιωνι ουτε εν τω μελλοντι [gnt]


52. Matthew 12:31 Unpardonable sin
Verses 8
Verse routeMatthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. [kjv]
Verse routeδια τουτο λεγω υμιν πασα αμαρτια και βλασφημια αφεθησεται τοις ανθρωποις η δε του πνευματος βλασφημια ουκ αφεθησεται [gnt]


53. Forgiveness and blasphemy
Blasphemy is speaking evil of something in a way that may not be appropriate.

If one clearly blasphemes Christ, everyone knows what is happening. If one deceptively omits details and emphasizes other details and, in some cases, changes details, the resulting blaspheme against the Holy Spirit is not obvious to those listening.

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54. Example
That same person lambasted worshipers in the Eastern Orthodox church there as idol worshipers as they had icons displayed - in many instances to remind them of parts of the Bible.

Such a witness is of dubious value in many respects. One can and should do better. It would be very useful to learn about the language, culture and churches in that area before doing such activities.

55. Model
One model of "idle words" that appears to fit this passage is that "idle words" are deceptive words or omitted words (to help the deception) that serve to allow the person saying the "idle words" to impersonate Christ as in a MITM (Man in the Middle) attack.

It appears that these are the "idle words" that need to be accounted for in the day of judgment as either "for Christ" or "against Christ". If it cannot be determined as to the intent and/or meaning of those "idle words", a decision procedure is needed to determine on which side the "idle words" fall.

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56. Accounting
Divide into two partsThat is the purpose of the Greek word for "judge" used here - a separation process. Jesus provides a decision procedure, or tie-breaker, in the next verse. Discuss: Can omitted words serve the same purpose or end as spoken words?

57. Matthew 12:30 Tie-breaker rule
Verses 9
Verse routeMatthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. [kjv]
Verse routeο μη ων μετ εμου κατ εμου εστιν και ο μη συναγων μετ εμου σκορπιζει [gnt]

An analogy can be made to computational science.

58. Related ideas
The following ideas of logical truth are related. Connections can be made of logical truth to reality truth and human truth.

Here we look to make an analogy with computational decidability in terms of the Halting Problem.

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59. Alan Turing: halting problem
Maybe
Alan Turing (1912-1954) developed the ideas that proved the limits of computing before the first programmable digital computer was built. Claude Shannon (1939) showed that one could built such a computer.
The halting problem (Turing, Turing machine, 1936) result: It is impossible to write a computer program that looks at another computer program (and its data) and determines whether that other computer program eventually halts.

The possible answers for a computation of an undecidable problem are yes (true), no (false), or maybe (wait forever). One may be able to go "outside the system" to determine a better answer.

An abstract (or physical) computer can be called a Turing Machine. A Turing complete programming language can compute any computable function.

[waiting for a program to stop, secure form submission, virus detection]

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60. Halting problem observations
The analogy of the "idle word" problem to the "halting problem" is as follows.

61. Idle word problem
Verses 9
Verse routeMatthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. [kjv]
Verse routeο μη ων μετ εμου κατ εμου εστιν και ο μη συναγων μετ εμου σκορπιζει [gnt]

Decision procedure
The determination of "undecidable idle words" may need some "accounting" outside of the system due to casual or intentional deception, etc.

Some "undecidable idle words" may still be undecidable and some tie-breaker rule is needed for decision purposes. This verse appears to provide that tie-breaker rule.

62. Matthew 12:29 Context
Verses 0 Verses 1
The next verse (in reverse order) is the "strong man" verse.
Verse routeMatthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. [kjv]
Verse routeη πως δυναται τις εισελθειν εις την οικιαν του ισχυρου και τα σκευη αυτου σαι αρπασαι εαν μη πρωτον δηση τον ισχυρον και τοτε την οικιαν αυτου διαρπασει [gnt]

Exodus and way outJesus will bind the strong man and snatch (rapture) his goods (vessels as believers) - those with a good heart and good fruit and, if needed, have accounted for any "idle words".


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63. Saying
What is not said is often as important as what was said?

A husband related how he got in trouble with his wife.

64. Silence is golden
Speech is silverThere is an English saying that "Speech is silver. Silence is golden". This saying started in one form and gradually changed into the more common forms.

65. Silence is golden
Silence is goldenA shortened form is that "Silence is golden".

Similar sayings in English are:

66. Silence is golden
Duct tape is silverSome might prefer "Duct tape is silver".

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67. First they came
After the silence of many in the Nazi rise to power and the resulting World War II, Martin Niemöller (German theologian and Lutheran pastor who opposed the Nazi rule) wrote a saying in 1946 that has been repeated in various forms since.

68. Playing both sides
Many pastors, teachers, etc., will intentionally be vague as not to offend anyone or, in some cases, to deceive others. Some will try to "play both sides" of the table. Accountability is important.

One reason for speaking up is to make someone trying to be vague or to deceive "show their cards" which is an idiom from card games where someone might "bluff" to make others think they have a good hand (of cards).

Another idiom for this is to "force the issue".

69. Have times changed
In Matthew 12, Jesus is speaking to the religious establishment. They have constrained the people from being able to do good with rules, regulations, etc., and a lot of meaningless talk or "idle talk".

It is interesting that today the same thing appears to have happened.

The religious leadership uses a lot of "idle talk" in sermons, etc., to distract the people from the real truth and ignore parts of the Bible they prefer not to present.

The meaning of "idle talk" (of distracting from the truth by the leadership) has been shifted to the people and the idea redefined to by any talk that is "sinful" in some way. And those same pastors may try to define sin as they see it.

If so, has this constrained the people in a manner similar to that of the religious establishment in the days of Jesus?

70. Discussion
Discuss the following. Discuss: How does one detect "blasphemy"? How can one get upset at false teaching if one does not understand that it is false teaching?

Information sign More: Matthew 13:3-23 KP1 Parable of the sower
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71. Little ones
Verse routeMatthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. [kjv]

In the GNT, "little ones" can refer to "children" but in addition, usually refers to "believers".

Information sign More: Matthew 11:6: Idiomatic misinterpretations that offend
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72. Discuss
You may be thinking that focusing on the pastor or leadership is not appropriate. Keep in mind that the entire context of Matthew 12 is that of Jesus speaking to the religious establishment who has accused him of doing miracles by the power of Satan.

Discuss:

73. Matthew 12:37,36,32,30 Review
Verses 1
Verse routeMatthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. [kjv]
Verse route12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [kjv]

Verse route12:32 And who soever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but who soever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. [kjv]
Verse route12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. [kjv]

A top-down backward-chaining view of these verses take "idle words" to the "unpardonable sin" and a decision procedure. [computability, halting problem, algorithmic information theory]

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74. Summary table of sheep and goats
Divide into two parts
Here is the summarized table of conditions for the sheep and goats in Matthew 25 using a one-letter abbreviation for each. How many groupings?

h hungry gave me food
t thirsty gave me drink
s stranger/guest took me in
n naked clothed me
w sick/weak examined me
p prison/confined came/went to me
For each condition, the meaning can be one (or all) of the following.
    ☐ Literal meaning
    ☐ Figurative meaning (as in Jesus using "sleeping" for "has died" in describing the condition of Lazarus)
    ☐ Something else

Do churches ever "misinterpret" what Jesus is saying? Some who thought they were doing the right thing were "surprised". Some who did not do those things were "surprised" that they had done the right thing.

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75. Matthew 13:33 KP4 Parable of the leaven
Verse routeMatthew 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. [kjv]
Verse routeαλλην παραβολην ελαλησεν αυτοις ομοια εστιν η βασιλεια των ουρανων ζυμη ην λαβουσα γυνη ενεκρυψεν εις αλευρου σατα τρια εως ου εζυμωθη ολον [gnt]

The third kingdom parable in Matthew 13 is very short - just one verse.

The ancient Greek word "ἄλευρον ""ground grain" which was often wheat. Jesus uses this idea to represent true doctrine or teaching.

The ancient Greek word "ζύμη""yeast, dough" and is used by Jesus to represent false doctrine or teaching.

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